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		<title>By: Friendly Park Ridge</title>
		<link>http://www.publicwatchdog.org/archives/2009/05/20/the-city-budget-and-the-culture-of-stupidity/#comment-43885</link>
		<dc:creator>Friendly Park Ridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have served on a committe with Ms.Jeannie Markech and we were usually on different sides. I always respected her thoughts, and would vote for her for Mayor tomorrow- she could make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have served on a committe with Ms.Jeannie Markech and we were usually on different sides. I always respected her thoughts, and would vote for her for Mayor tomorrow- she could make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: PublicWatchdog</title>
		<link>http://www.publicwatchdog.org/archives/2009/05/20/the-city-budget-and-the-culture-of-stupidity/#comment-43480</link>
		<dc:creator>PublicWatchdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 22:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p style=&quot;line-height: 14.4pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: &#039;Arial&#039;,&#039;sans-serif&#039;&quot;&gt;She was elected in 2005, but her term was cut short by the cut-the-council referendum. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: &#039;Arial&#039;,&#039;sans-serif&#039;&quot; /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: &#039;Arial&#039;,&#039;sans-serif&#039;&quot;&gt;She did not run for the single post-cut 2nd Ward seat in 2007, which Rich DiPietro won unopposed - albeit with the lowest vote total (723) of any of the 7 aldermen (including the 2 other unopposed candidates) elected that year. 

&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: &#039;Arial&#039;,&#039;sans-serif&#039;&quot;&gt;Historically, the 2nd Ward has tended to have the lowest voter turnouts of any ward in Park Ridge: In what we believe to be the only contested race DiPietro ever had, he won by a pathetically low 298-277 margin in 2003. 

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&lt;p style=&quot;line-height: 14.4pt&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: &#039;Arial&#039;,&#039;sans-serif&#039;&quot;&gt;If voter turnout is any guide, the people of the Second Ward invest little in City government, and they get little (Rich DiPietro) in return - which might prove H.L. Mencken&#039;s quote: &quot;&lt;a title=&quot;Click for further information about this quotation&quot; href=&quot;http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/856.html&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none&quot;&gt;Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


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<p style="line-height: 14.4pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'">She was elected in 2005, but her term was cut short by the cut-the-council referendum. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'" /><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'">She did not run for the single post-cut 2nd Ward seat in 2007, which Rich DiPietro won unopposed &#8211; albeit with the lowest vote total (723) of any of the 7 aldermen (including the 2 other unopposed candidates) elected that year. </p>
<p></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Historically, the 2nd Ward has tended to have the lowest voter turnouts of any ward in Park Ridge: In what we believe to be the only contested race DiPietro ever had, he won by a pathetically low 298-277 margin in 2003. </p>
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<p style="line-height: 14.4pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'">If voter turnout is any guide, the people of the Second Ward invest little in City government, and they get little (Rich DiPietro) in return &#8211; which might prove H.L. Mencken&#8217;s quote: &#8220;<a title="Click for further information about this quotation" href="http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/856.html"><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none">Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.</span></a>” </span></p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is J. Markesh no longer an alder-person? She is obviously passionate about Park Ridge and the city government and also great use of my new favorite word, Fuckwittery!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is J. Markesh no longer an alder-person? She is obviously passionate about Park Ridge and the city government and also great use of my new favorite word, Fuckwittery!</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.publicwatchdog.org/archives/2009/05/20/the-city-budget-and-the-culture-of-stupidity/#comment-43341</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a chain of commments?  Cutting to the chase, I have seen nothing to suggest that there is any reasonable basis for NOT passing the additional water cost to the water users. No pun intended, but Wsol, Bach, etc. must be carrying water for some special interest, or else they are completely out to lunch on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a chain of commments?  Cutting to the chase, I have seen nothing to suggest that there is any reasonable basis for NOT passing the additional water cost to the water users. No pun intended, but Wsol, Bach, etc. must be carrying water for some special interest, or else they are completely out to lunch on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.publicwatchdog.org/archives/2009/05/20/the-city-budget-and-the-culture-of-stupidity/#comment-43337</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in agreement with you about both LGH and the BT.  The BT is a c3 then (I recalled they were a c6). Not sure how they can successful use education as their mission for tax exemption.  I was not saying anything about LGH.  I was commenting on the c6 matter.  I am not clueless on matters of c3 or c6.  

As far as LGH is concerned, I would be surprised though if LGH had no problem paying a tax or more fees for the water. After all, this is an organization that charges to park to go visit a patient or see a doctor.  This is an organization that generates a profit regularly and pays its top management and doctors a hefty compensation package.  It has significant cash reserves and fund balance.  And they have enough money or access to money to build a major addition.  Yet if you look for charity care-not much there.  Trying to throw community education and outreach into a charity care or community benefit statement is misleading.  Seminars on estate planning as charity care?  Smoking cessation or weight loss management as charity care?  Charity care is free care for those who are unable to pay.  This is part of their obligation for being exempt from fedl and state taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in agreement with you about both LGH and the BT.  The BT is a c3 then (I recalled they were a c6). Not sure how they can successful use education as their mission for tax exemption.  I was not saying anything about LGH.  I was commenting on the c6 matter.  I am not clueless on matters of c3 or c6.  </p>
<p>As far as LGH is concerned, I would be surprised though if LGH had no problem paying a tax or more fees for the water. After all, this is an organization that charges to park to go visit a patient or see a doctor.  This is an organization that generates a profit regularly and pays its top management and doctors a hefty compensation package.  It has significant cash reserves and fund balance.  And they have enough money or access to money to build a major addition.  Yet if you look for charity care-not much there.  Trying to throw community education and outreach into a charity care or community benefit statement is misleading.  Seminars on estate planning as charity care?  Smoking cessation or weight loss management as charity care?  Charity care is free care for those who are unable to pay.  This is part of their obligation for being exempt from fedl and state taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: annonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.publicwatchdog.org/archives/2009/05/20/the-city-budget-and-the-culture-of-stupidity/#comment-43335</link>
		<dc:creator>annonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to make sure you don&#039;t think I am making things up, you can check the Big Ten taxes using PIN 12-02-114-060-0000; Lutheran General is PIN 09-22-200-029-0000 and PIN&#039;s following;  The American Society of Anesthesiologists in PIN 09-26-301-008-0000 thru pin ending in 011.  The Anesthesiologists, god love them pay what appears to be a tax bill of $160,000 per year.  BT and LGH = $0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to make sure you don&#8217;t think I am making things up, you can check the Big Ten taxes using PIN 12-02-114-060-0000; Lutheran General is PIN 09-22-200-029-0000 and PIN&#8217;s following;  The American Society of Anesthesiologists in PIN 09-26-301-008-0000 thru pin ending in 011.  The Anesthesiologists, god love them pay what appears to be a tax bill of $160,000 per year.  BT and LGH = $0.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.publicwatchdog.org/archives/2009/05/20/the-city-budget-and-the-culture-of-stupidity/#comment-43333</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Markesh-your use of obscene language on this site is offensive.  It shows the true nature of your being.  You are beyond someone to have a reasonable conversation with. 

And just because we backed out of SOC-where are money was going to line the pockets of their lobbyist lawyer-does not mean that we could not still fight the OMP.  In addition, your job as an alderperson was to represent all of PR as well as the people in your ward.  Why did you step down from the council.  And you are right-the alderpeople in this area did not come around to keep us informed.  But now that the new runway has opened, it does not mean we cannot try to salvage something from this nightmare.  And the city should be helping out on this. 

In addition, I did resond to the topic on hand. You listed the salaries of all the city employees.  I asked if this included the generous benefits we as taxpayers fund and then suggested that in addition to some cost cutting in the area of flowers and tree trimming etc that maybe staff layoffs or salary and benefit freezes or rollbacks would be appropriate.  After all, this is what companies do to stay viable when they are faced with a large budget deficit.  They don&#039;t go out and put up signs that are not needed or redo streets and sidewalks and landscaping like the project by the train station on Summit when their are not funds to pay for it and the TIF proved to be not nearly as profitable as projected.

As for my knowledge of (c)(6)&#039;s, your assumptions are incorrect.  I know a great deal about the tax issues of these organizations but I won&#039;t bore you with the details.  You come off on this blog time and time again as a know it all close minded contemptable person.  It is annoying and offensive.  Maybe you are not this way, but that is how your posts portray you.  

Have a great weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Markesh-your use of obscene language on this site is offensive.  It shows the true nature of your being.  You are beyond someone to have a reasonable conversation with. </p>
<p>And just because we backed out of SOC-where are money was going to line the pockets of their lobbyist lawyer-does not mean that we could not still fight the OMP.  In addition, your job as an alderperson was to represent all of PR as well as the people in your ward.  Why did you step down from the council.  And you are right-the alderpeople in this area did not come around to keep us informed.  But now that the new runway has opened, it does not mean we cannot try to salvage something from this nightmare.  And the city should be helping out on this. </p>
<p>In addition, I did resond to the topic on hand. You listed the salaries of all the city employees.  I asked if this included the generous benefits we as taxpayers fund and then suggested that in addition to some cost cutting in the area of flowers and tree trimming etc that maybe staff layoffs or salary and benefit freezes or rollbacks would be appropriate.  After all, this is what companies do to stay viable when they are faced with a large budget deficit.  They don&#8217;t go out and put up signs that are not needed or redo streets and sidewalks and landscaping like the project by the train station on Summit when their are not funds to pay for it and the TIF proved to be not nearly as profitable as projected.</p>
<p>As for my knowledge of (c)(6)&#8217;s, your assumptions are incorrect.  I know a great deal about the tax issues of these organizations but I won&#8217;t bore you with the details.  You come off on this blog time and time again as a know it all close minded contemptable person.  It is annoying and offensive.  Maybe you are not this way, but that is how your posts portray you.  </p>
<p>Have a great weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: annonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>annonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Anonymous 1:57

First, you have no clue about Jeannie and how active she was on the O&#039;Hare issue when she was an alderman.  She attended meetings, passed out materials and pleaded with Howard to go to the meetings to try to make an impact.  If you did not hear her, you just weren&#039;t listening.

As to the associations, you are right about the Anesthesiologist, wrong about the Big Ten and clueless about Lutheran General.  If you think a three or four story office or a ten story hospital uses the same amount of water as you do to water your lawn, you are delusional.  I am not attacking the organizations.  I am criticizing the alderman.  I have no doubt that if you told Lutheran General or the Big Ten they would have to pay their share of the water increase, they would not object.  So why do the aldermen feel compelled to give them something they do not seek at a cost to the rest of us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Anonymous 1:57</p>
<p>First, you have no clue about Jeannie and how active she was on the O&#8217;Hare issue when she was an alderman.  She attended meetings, passed out materials and pleaded with Howard to go to the meetings to try to make an impact.  If you did not hear her, you just weren&#8217;t listening.</p>
<p>As to the associations, you are right about the Anesthesiologist, wrong about the Big Ten and clueless about Lutheran General.  If you think a three or four story office or a ten story hospital uses the same amount of water as you do to water your lawn, you are delusional.  I am not attacking the organizations.  I am criticizing the alderman.  I have no doubt that if you told Lutheran General or the Big Ten they would have to pay their share of the water increase, they would not object.  So why do the aldermen feel compelled to give them something they do not seek at a cost to the rest of us?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie K. Markech</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie K. Markech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous on 05.22.09 1:57 pm,

&quot;J. Markesh-not getting my rocks off at all on you. Just calling like I read it with your know it all rude posts.&quot;

You should try to concentrate on the subject at hand instead of your personal obsession with me.

Up-thread, you posted:

&quot;Ms. Markech,
Does the list detailing salaries include the cost of the benefits the taxpayers fund-you know pension and healthcare? In addition, does it include the cost of the mortgage loan forgiveness to the city manager and a car he may have been given or other benefits? Maybe employees don’t need to be laid off (maybe), but a salary freeze or reduction or elimination of some benefits should be considered. This is what companies all over the country are doing to try to stay viable.

...blah blah blah, whine whine whine, moan, grouse, complain, etc.&quot;

 

My response to you was:

&quot;Anonymous on 05.21.09 3:41 pm,

No.

However, the city budget does. Here’s the link… http://www.parkridge.us/government/city-budget.asp

Knock yourself out.&quot;

Did you bother to read through the budget for the information you wanted?

No.

 Either you&#039;re too lazy to make the effort on your own behalf, or you&#039;re too stupid to figure it out.

Instead of even trying to engage on the topic of the post, you responded with:

&quot;Ms.Markesh,
You come off as a very witchy person. Why not direct your energies for running for office again. Then the whole town can be subject to your incredibly judgemental and opinionated and apparently close minded self.&quot;

In response you were again invited by me to comment on the subject at hand. You&#039;ve declined again and instead have made me your focus.

You&#039;re a fuckwit.

How so? I shall explain it to you:

You asked, &quot;Weren’t you on the council when the OMP got started?&quot;

No. I wasn&#039;t. By the time I was elected to the Council, the OMP was well underway, Park Ridge had already withdrawn from SOC, Ron Weitecha packed up his earring and headed for Barrington, and Park Ridge had already spent two years as members of the ONCC, the first liaison being Ald. Dawn Disher, the next liaison being Ald. Jeff Cox, and then me.

See? You&#039;re a provably know-nothing fuckwit.  Your level of ignorance on a subject you actually give a flying jet about is stunning!

You also said, &quot;Don’t remember you saying anything to our neighborhood about the landing pattern for the new runway.&quot;

Your lack of remembering doesn&#039;t mean I didn&#039;t say anything nor that you and [your] &quot;neighborhood&quot; weren&#039;t provided information either by the first, second, or third liaison to the ONCC, regarding the OMP.

Your failure to heed the warnings or stay awake long enough for the information to settle in some fold of your gray matter doesn&#039;t mean the information hasn&#039;t been made available to you, repeatedly.

Have you bothered to ask your own Alderman why he didn&#039;t relay the information to [your] &quot;neighborhood?&quot;  You know, the &quot;neighborhood&quot; actually represented by YOUR Alderman?

If you peruse this blog...type O&#039;hare into the search box on the front page; I refuse to make the effort of posting the links for you...you will find a boat-load of documentation that refutes your contention that I, specifically, never said anything to [your] &quot;neighborhood.&quot; Unless of course, you think I had some obligation to go knock on all your doors, essentially usurping the responsibility of your Alderman.

As for you remark, &quot;Thanks for keeping us informed.&quot;

You&#039;re welcome.

Instead of going back to address and look into all that you&#039;ve left unaddressed and unreviewed, you say &quot;As for the associations, anon at 1:37, these are 501(c)(6) organizations and not exempt from sales or real estate taxes. They are paying real estate taxes on their land. In addition, they do not use that much water. Not the organizations to attack.&quot;

It just so happens that &quot;anon at 1:37&quot; knows exactly what he&#039;s talking about. You do not. But then again, we&#039;ve seen what level of knowledge you possess on things that actually matter to you. Your continued fuckwittery on this issue comes as no surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous on 05.22.09 1:57 pm,</p>
<p>&#8220;J. Markesh-not getting my rocks off at all on you. Just calling like I read it with your know it all rude posts.&#8221;</p>
<p>You should try to concentrate on the subject at hand instead of your personal obsession with me.</p>
<p>Up-thread, you posted:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ms. Markech,<br />
Does the list detailing salaries include the cost of the benefits the taxpayers fund-you know pension and healthcare? In addition, does it include the cost of the mortgage loan forgiveness to the city manager and a car he may have been given or other benefits? Maybe employees don’t need to be laid off (maybe), but a salary freeze or reduction or elimination of some benefits should be considered. This is what companies all over the country are doing to try to stay viable.</p>
<p>&#8230;blah blah blah, whine whine whine, moan, grouse, complain, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My response to you was:</p>
<p>&#8220;Anonymous on 05.21.09 3:41 pm,</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>However, the city budget does. Here’s the link… <a href="http://www.parkridge.us/government/city-budget.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.parkridge.us/government/city-budget.asp</a></p>
<p>Knock yourself out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you bother to read through the budget for the information you wanted?</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p> Either you&#8217;re too lazy to make the effort on your own behalf, or you&#8217;re too stupid to figure it out.</p>
<p>Instead of even trying to engage on the topic of the post, you responded with:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ms.Markesh,<br />
You come off as a very witchy person. Why not direct your energies for running for office again. Then the whole town can be subject to your incredibly judgemental and opinionated and apparently close minded self.&#8221;</p>
<p>In response you were again invited by me to comment on the subject at hand. You&#8217;ve declined again and instead have made me your focus.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a fuckwit.</p>
<p>How so? I shall explain it to you:</p>
<p>You asked, &#8220;Weren’t you on the council when the OMP got started?&#8221;</p>
<p>No. I wasn&#8217;t. By the time I was elected to the Council, the OMP was well underway, Park Ridge had already withdrawn from SOC, Ron Weitecha packed up his earring and headed for Barrington, and Park Ridge had already spent two years as members of the ONCC, the first liaison being Ald. Dawn Disher, the next liaison being Ald. Jeff Cox, and then me.</p>
<p>See? You&#8217;re a provably know-nothing fuckwit.  Your level of ignorance on a subject you actually give a flying jet about is stunning!</p>
<p>You also said, &#8220;Don’t remember you saying anything to our neighborhood about the landing pattern for the new runway.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your lack of remembering doesn&#8217;t mean I didn&#8217;t say anything nor that you and [your] &#8220;neighborhood&#8221; weren&#8217;t provided information either by the first, second, or third liaison to the ONCC, regarding the OMP.</p>
<p>Your failure to heed the warnings or stay awake long enough for the information to settle in some fold of your gray matter doesn&#8217;t mean the information hasn&#8217;t been made available to you, repeatedly.</p>
<p>Have you bothered to ask your own Alderman why he didn&#8217;t relay the information to [your] &#8220;neighborhood?&#8221;  You know, the &#8220;neighborhood&#8221; actually represented by YOUR Alderman?</p>
<p>If you peruse this blog&#8230;type O&#8217;hare into the search box on the front page; I refuse to make the effort of posting the links for you&#8230;you will find a boat-load of documentation that refutes your contention that I, specifically, never said anything to [your] &#8220;neighborhood.&#8221; Unless of course, you think I had some obligation to go knock on all your doors, essentially usurping the responsibility of your Alderman.</p>
<p>As for you remark, &#8220;Thanks for keeping us informed.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
<p>Instead of going back to address and look into all that you&#8217;ve left unaddressed and unreviewed, you say &#8220;As for the associations, anon at 1:37, these are 501(c)(6) organizations and not exempt from sales or real estate taxes. They are paying real estate taxes on their land. In addition, they do not use that much water. Not the organizations to attack.&#8221;</p>
<p>It just so happens that &#8220;anon at 1:37&#8243; knows exactly what he&#8217;s talking about. You do not. But then again, we&#8217;ve seen what level of knowledge you possess on things that actually matter to you. Your continued fuckwittery on this issue comes as no surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J. Markesh-not getting my rocks off at all on you.  Just calling like I read it with your know it all rude posts.  Weren&#039;t you on the council when the OMP got started?  Don&#039;t remember you saying anything to our neighborhood about the landing pattern for the new runway.  Thanks for keeping us informed.

As for the associations, anon at 1:37, these are 501(c)(6) organizations and not exempt from sales or real estate taxes.  They are paying real estate taxes on their land.  In addition, they do not use that much water.  Not the organizations to attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. Markesh-not getting my rocks off at all on you.  Just calling like I read it with your know it all rude posts.  Weren&#8217;t you on the council when the OMP got started?  Don&#8217;t remember you saying anything to our neighborhood about the landing pattern for the new runway.  Thanks for keeping us informed.</p>
<p>As for the associations, anon at 1:37, these are 501(c)(6) organizations and not exempt from sales or real estate taxes.  They are paying real estate taxes on their land.  In addition, they do not use that much water.  Not the organizations to attack.</p>
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