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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.publicwatchdog.org/archives/2008/10/24/caesar-we-dont-need-no-stinking-caesar/#comment-7841</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone please explain precisely what kind of grant programs / low income housing programs folks are referring to? I&#039;m having a hard time following the money here.

Please understand that I&#039;m happy to sign on with the Lone Gunmen theories, because stranger things have obviously happened here in PR, and I readily acknowledge that many a developer counts themselves in the cadre of Friends of Frimark, but I&#039;m finding the link between &quot;inviting more homeless to PR&quot; and &quot;putting more money into the hands of Frimark and His Friends&quot; a little tenuous. 

From what (very little) I understand of Federal low-income housing programs, the compliance requirements on these kinds of programs are onerous, and most folks get involved in order to generate credits to off-set other income, as the projects themselves turn very little (if any) profits.

thanks.


Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone please explain precisely what kind of grant programs / low income housing programs folks are referring to? I&#8217;m having a hard time following the money here.</p>
<p>Please understand that I&#8217;m happy to sign on with the Lone Gunmen theories, because stranger things have obviously happened here in PR, and I readily acknowledge that many a developer counts themselves in the cadre of Friends of Frimark, but I&#8217;m finding the link between &#8220;inviting more homeless to PR&#8221; and &#8220;putting more money into the hands of Frimark and His Friends&#8221; a little tenuous. </p>
<p>From what (very little) I understand of Federal low-income housing programs, the compliance requirements on these kinds of programs are onerous, and most folks get involved in order to generate credits to off-set other income, as the projects themselves turn very little (if any) profits.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rosemary mulligan&#039;s on the ballot, endorsed by Mayor Frimark. Her campaign headquarters say she is for Pads, and incorrectly said it would be in the public works facility permanently. She has no clue, or else her campaign workers have no clue. Mulligan Headquarters:847-635-6565</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rosemary mulligan&#8217;s on the ballot, endorsed by Mayor Frimark. Her campaign headquarters say she is for Pads, and incorrectly said it would be in the public works facility permanently. She has no clue, or else her campaign workers have no clue. Mulligan Headquarters:847-635-6565</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous on 10.24.08 5:11 pm may be right.  Frimark and the PRMA needs to import homeless from other towns because we don&#039;t have enough Park Ridge homeless to get to whatever magic number is needed to get grant money.  That&#039;s what his buddies Sue Bell and Nan Parson want, and with the more expensive condos and townhouses in the dumps it might be what Frimark&#039;s development buddies want, too, because the grant money can go for concessions to them in building multi-family housing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous on 10.24.08 5:11 pm may be right.  Frimark and the PRMA needs to import homeless from other towns because we don&#8217;t have enough Park Ridge homeless to get to whatever magic number is needed to get grant money.  That&#8217;s what his buddies Sue Bell and Nan Parson want, and with the more expensive condos and townhouses in the dumps it might be what Frimark&#8217;s development buddies want, too, because the grant money can go for concessions to them in building multi-family housing.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.publicwatchdog.org/archives/2008/10/24/caesar-we-dont-need-no-stinking-caesar/#comment-7714</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mayor Frimark is looking for a reason to build low income housing to house all the homeless people being brought in. This is not a simple issue. That is why he must be so hell bent on pushing this thru the back door. He endorsed Rosemary Mulligan HQ # 847-635-6565, If you are opposed to this issue and the alliance, go ahead and call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mayor Frimark is looking for a reason to build low income housing to house all the homeless people being brought in. This is not a simple issue. That is why he must be so hell bent on pushing this thru the back door. He endorsed Rosemary Mulligan HQ # 847-635-6565, If you are opposed to this issue and the alliance, go ahead and call.</p>
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		<title>By: James Butler</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course we don&#039;t have any say about this.  It&#039;s part of PRMA&#039;s Corruption Ministry that Morello was talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we don&#8217;t have any say about this.  It&#8217;s part of PRMA&#8217;s Corruption Ministry that Morello was talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoover</title>
		<link>http://www.publicwatchdog.org/archives/2008/10/24/caesar-we-dont-need-no-stinking-caesar/#comment-7710</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a church-going Christian and try to do the right thing. And I&#039;m happy to sit in church and listen to my minister suggest the various Christian factors that we should consider when FORMING OUR OWN JUDGMENTS about how we should live our lives.

But I resent it when my minister wants me to substitute his judgment for my own, or when I refuse to do so and he criticizes/condemns me and my judgment when it diverges from his.

As for Frimark and his &quot;alderpuppets,&quot; their ankle-grabbing for PADS and the PRMA on this issue is despicable.  And on the &quot;professional&quot; side, Buzz Hill is very disappointing, but Carrie Davis is a total disaster.

The only thing that will straighten this stuff out is big-time change at City Hall, starting with the guy pretending to be our mayor. April can&#039;t come soon enough for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a church-going Christian and try to do the right thing. And I&#8217;m happy to sit in church and listen to my minister suggest the various Christian factors that we should consider when FORMING OUR OWN JUDGMENTS about how we should live our lives.</p>
<p>But I resent it when my minister wants me to substitute his judgment for my own, or when I refuse to do so and he criticizes/condemns me and my judgment when it diverges from his.</p>
<p>As for Frimark and his &#8220;alderpuppets,&#8221; their ankle-grabbing for PADS and the PRMA on this issue is despicable.  And on the &#8220;professional&#8221; side, Buzz Hill is very disappointing, but Carrie Davis is a total disaster.</p>
<p>The only thing that will straighten this stuff out is big-time change at City Hall, starting with the guy pretending to be our mayor. April can&#8217;t come soon enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Wondering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all my years I have never been more disappointed, or really disgusted, with organized religion. From my point of view, frankly, the PRMA’s behavior during this whole sordid episode has been nothing short of despicable. From the very beginning, when it was apparent, right or wrong, that this PADS / homeless shelter issue was dividing and would continue to divide the church communities and the larger community in general, the PRMA said they wanted to heal the rift. But instead what they did was work behind the scenes with the Mayor and others in order to engineer their outcome. And it was evident last Monday night that was the case after Frimark sprung his announcement on all of us and then Jen Conlon was able to comment on specifics of the so-called “contract” that Frimark said he’d been negotiating with the PRMA and PADS.

Here’s what I heard the other night from Frimark and the PRMA: Park Ridge community go f*ck yourselves, Park Ridge church community go f*ck yourselves, Park Ridge non-christian community go f*ck yourselves. Rev. McCleneghan’s email simply confirms that for me.

Frimark, you have made your bed and you will have a chance to lie in it all in good time.

PRMA and Pastors, certainly you have your white shirts but for many of us you have abdicated your place of esteem (whatever you may have had) with many of us. Good luck with membership, church attendance and at the collection box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all my years I have never been more disappointed, or really disgusted, with organized religion. From my point of view, frankly, the PRMA’s behavior during this whole sordid episode has been nothing short of despicable. From the very beginning, when it was apparent, right or wrong, that this PADS / homeless shelter issue was dividing and would continue to divide the church communities and the larger community in general, the PRMA said they wanted to heal the rift. But instead what they did was work behind the scenes with the Mayor and others in order to engineer their outcome. And it was evident last Monday night that was the case after Frimark sprung his announcement on all of us and then Jen Conlon was able to comment on specifics of the so-called “contract” that Frimark said he’d been negotiating with the PRMA and PADS.</p>
<p>Here’s what I heard the other night from Frimark and the PRMA: Park Ridge community go f*ck yourselves, Park Ridge church community go f*ck yourselves, Park Ridge non-christian community go f*ck yourselves. Rev. McCleneghan’s email simply confirms that for me.</p>
<p>Frimark, you have made your bed and you will have a chance to lie in it all in good time.</p>
<p>PRMA and Pastors, certainly you have your white shirts but for many of us you have abdicated your place of esteem (whatever you may have had) with many of us. Good luck with membership, church attendance and at the collection box.</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fed Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it quite ironic that Pastor Larson of St. Luke&#039;s says they can&#039;t host a homeless shelter since they don&#039;t have sprinklers (supposedly required by the Building Code) yet in the next breath, disavow the Zoning Code as being unconstitutional.

Hypocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it quite ironic that Pastor Larson of St. Luke&#8217;s says they can&#8217;t host a homeless shelter since they don&#8217;t have sprinklers (supposedly required by the Building Code) yet in the next breath, disavow the Zoning Code as being unconstitutional.</p>
<p>Hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course we/you are &quot;offended&quot;.  We disagree (strongly) with their position.  The suggestion to &quot;go ahead and do it&quot; is not unpressidented.  All one has to do is look at the immigrant sanctuary issue.  

What I was mainly pointing to in my previous post is that his post outlines the same position that PRMA has maintained and that has been debated throughout this drama - ministries versus right to regulate/liscense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course we/you are &#8220;offended&#8221;.  We disagree (strongly) with their position.  The suggestion to &#8220;go ahead and do it&#8221; is not unpressidented.  All one has to do is look at the immigrant sanctuary issue.  </p>
<p>What I was mainly pointing to in my previous post is that his post outlines the same position that PRMA has maintained and that has been debated throughout this drama &#8211; ministries versus right to regulate/liscense.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon @ 1:54 pm:

How about him explaining his &quot;screw the city, just do it&quot; attitude? As Watchdog says, that&#039;s not what you want to hear from a civic leader. 

If he really believes the regulations are unconstitutional, then let him file a lawsuit against the city.  But to tell people to just go ahead and do whatever they want irrespective of what the law is, or to do it before the restrictions get the second vote so as to beat the city to the punch (so to speak), is really offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon @ 1:54 pm:</p>
<p>How about him explaining his &#8220;screw the city, just do it&#8221; attitude? As Watchdog says, that&#8217;s not what you want to hear from a civic leader. </p>
<p>If he really believes the regulations are unconstitutional, then let him file a lawsuit against the city.  But to tell people to just go ahead and do whatever they want irrespective of what the law is, or to do it before the restrictions get the second vote so as to beat the city to the punch (so to speak), is really offensive.</p>
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